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	<title>Comments on: Spring DM Server : OSGI for the Plebs</title>
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	<description>Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Harrop</title>
		<link>http://www.albanseurat.com/2009/09/spring-dm-server-osgi-for-the-plebs/comment-page-1/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Harrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alban,

The team really appreciates your comments and your hardwork in writing up this piece.

We&#039;re really happy with the way plans are shaping up, we&#039;d love to hear any comments that you have.

Thanks,

Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alban,</p>
<p>The team really appreciates your comments and your hardwork in writing up this piece.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re really happy with the way plans are shaping up, we&#8217;d love to hear any comments that you have.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Alban Seurat</title>
		<link>http://www.albanseurat.com/2009/09/spring-dm-server-osgi-for-the-plebs/comment-page-1/#comment-195</link>
		<dc:creator>Alban Seurat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comment, 

Maybe I was not clear enough in my article. Indeed, Spring DM Server is fully OSGi compliant (equinox kernel) and therefore, it allows to deploy manually every bundle. My points was not really against Spring DM Server, the lack of a deployment standard on OSGI for multiple bundle distribution is lacking and being tight to any container is something I tend to avoid. Anyway, I heard of plans, I will try this soon. Great project, great product, great work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comment, </p>
<p>Maybe I was not clear enough in my article. Indeed, Spring DM Server is fully OSGi compliant (equinox kernel) and therefore, it allows to deploy manually every bundle. My points was not really against Spring DM Server, the lack of a deployment standard on OSGI for multiple bundle distribution is lacking and being tight to any container is something I tend to avoid. Anyway, I heard of plans, I will try this soon. Great project, great product, great work.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Harrop</title>
		<link>http://www.albanseurat.com/2009/09/spring-dm-server-osgi-for-the-plebs/comment-page-1/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Harrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to write this up.

I wanted to clear up one point. PAR files are just an option for dm Server. You can still deploy individual bundles directly to the server. PAR files are mainly used when you want to get isolation for your applications. In the 2.0 version we have introduced the notion of plan files that allow the same benefits as PAR files whilst allowing bundles to be packaged separately.

We looked at the start level service for a long time and we didn&#039;t really like the model that it suggests. We prefer to rely on service dependencies to handle module interdependencies rather than strict timing blocks.

Thanks again!

Rob Harrop
Lead Engineer, SpringSource dm Server</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to write this up.</p>
<p>I wanted to clear up one point. PAR files are just an option for dm Server. You can still deploy individual bundles directly to the server. PAR files are mainly used when you want to get isolation for your applications. In the 2.0 version we have introduced the notion of plan files that allow the same benefits as PAR files whilst allowing bundles to be packaged separately.</p>
<p>We looked at the start level service for a long time and we didn&#8217;t really like the model that it suggests. We prefer to rely on service dependencies to handle module interdependencies rather than strict timing blocks.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
<p>Rob Harrop<br />
Lead Engineer, SpringSource dm Server</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.albanseurat.com/2009/09/spring-dm-server-osgi-for-the-plebs/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 12:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may also be interested in the Paremus Service Fabric that provides a model-driven, distributed OSGi runtime. With support for SpringDM, standard Spring POJO&#039;s, Guice &amp; WARs, the Service Fabric allows you to easily add scale and resilience to your applications.

The model-driven aspect  allows you to describe your components (and wiring of them together) in a document and then automate the deployment and on-going maintainence (self-healing resilience, update, removal, etc) of these within the runtime.

You can find out more  and get an evaluation version at www.paremus.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may also be interested in the Paremus Service Fabric that provides a model-driven, distributed OSGi runtime. With support for SpringDM, standard Spring POJO&#8217;s, Guice &amp; WARs, the Service Fabric allows you to easily add scale and resilience to your applications.</p>
<p>The model-driven aspect  allows you to describe your components (and wiring of them together) in a document and then automate the deployment and on-going maintainence (self-healing resilience, update, removal, etc) of these within the runtime.</p>
<p>You can find out more  and get an evaluation version at <a href="http://www.paremus.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.paremus.com</a>.</p>
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